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#2476 - 04/13/10 12:49 PM New GMC Duramax Diesels
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Hey there Fireside...

I saw somewhere they were to start mixing Urea (sp?) with the fuel in the new GMC's...

Whats up with that? dunno When will this start? dunno

I saw some nice GMC Crew Cabs Diesels on your lot last week, was wondering if they already have it...

Let me know what the deal is...

Has anyone else heard of this yet ?

Tom
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#2478 - 04/13/10 03:12 PM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: CampingPA Ranger]
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i don't think they have it yet. pretty soon, most if not all diesels will be coming with it. just something else to have to fill up

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#2481 - 04/13/10 09:28 PM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: Crash]
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yep the new duramax has the urea and the new powerstroke has it,so far the cummins does not have it.sounds like a real hassle to me.
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#2495 - 04/14/10 03:29 PM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: rich]
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I have been doing some reading on this lately and the new Sierra, silverado, and super duty require the urea to meet emissions regulations. The urea is sprayed into the exhaust after it leaves the catalytic converter. The fluid needs refilled at about every 5000 miles for GM and 7500 miles for Ford. pulling heavy loads does use the urea faster. A reminder light flashes on GM with 1000 miles or fewer remain. If you run out your speed is limited to 4mph. The Ford light comes on at 800 miles or less and if you run out you are limited to idle. The dodge does not require urea and i am not sure why. It must meet emmision standard without and maybe because it is a V6. Sound like a hasle but it is one of those things you get use to and then it is second nature.
GM, Ford, and Dodge will all have new designed heavy-duty trucks this year. Dodge is out now, Ford this month, and GM in the fall. Thsi is because of new diesel regs that took effect Jan. 1. The new reg. required 80 percent reduction in nitrogen oxide from the tailpipe.
In the 3500 Gm and Ford will tow 16,000 pounds and the Dodge Ram will tow 12,000.
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#2496 - 04/14/10 03:33 PM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: Fire Side]
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the dodge met the emission standards with the 6.7 so its good to go. they use the dpf, nox catalyst, egr.

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#2497 - 04/14/10 03:34 PM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: Crash]
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i don't understand how they are going to pull off the 4mph speed limit either. sounds like a big safety hazard to me

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#2498 - 04/14/10 03:34 PM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: Crash]
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No Wonder it met it...

It will only tow 3/4 the weight the REAL truck do...

HMMMM... Can you say light duty Ram Not So Tough?

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#2499 - 04/14/10 03:35 PM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: CampingPA Ranger]
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um, yeah right

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#2500 - 04/14/10 03:40 PM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: Fire Side]
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Originally Posted By: Fire Side
In the 3500 Gm and Ford will tow 16,000 pounds and the Dodge Ram will tow 12,000.


Um Yeh Right What...

12,000 lbs is only 3/4 of 16,000 lbs...

Whats the deal with that ?
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#2501 - 04/14/10 03:41 PM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: Crash]
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I think most people will carry a gallon with them just in case. At 4 mph it could take a while to get to some urea.
Ford just said it would idle, so im not exactly sure what that means. When i get more info i will post it.
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#2503 - 04/14/10 09:40 PM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: Fire Side]
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the dodge will tow allot more than that. the rating can be changed. heck, i towed 16,000 pounds of water last year for the pool.

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#2504 - 04/14/10 09:47 PM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: Crash]
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hmm, looks like someone skewed the numbers a bit. this is right from dodges website:

Ram 2500 specs:

•Towing capacity: Up to 13,450 pounds[1]
•Payload capacity: Up to 3,160 pounds
Ram 3500 specs:

•Towing capacity: Up to 17,600 pounds[1] (Late availability)
•Payload capacity: Up to 5,130 pounds[2]

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#2505 - 04/14/10 09:59 PM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: Crash]
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Yeh Dodge Did...

They are lying to you ! lmao

They know they cant pull it...

Just sayin... rofl
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#2532 - 04/20/10 03:00 PM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: CampingPA Ranger]
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I got the info from Automotive News April 12th edition. The article was called Here come the heavies. Here is the link.
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100412/RETAIL03/304129983/1403
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#2534 - 04/20/10 05:22 PM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: Fire Side]
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Wow...

Right there in black and white...

Heavy-duty hauling
Maximum towing capacity, in pounds

Chevy Silverado 3500 16,000
Dodge Ram 3500 12,000
Ford 350 Super Duty 16,000
GMC Sierra 3500 16,000
Source: Manufacturers

Horse Power
Chevrolet 6.6-liter 8 397
Dodge 6.7-liter 6 350
Ford 6.7-liter** 8 390
GMC 6.6-liter 8 397


Dodge slacking in all categories...

Hmmm... Crasher, wanna trade in yet?

If I were you, I'd be driving a GMC... 2thumbs

Or At least, dare I say, a Ford anyhow... thumbs

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#2542 - 04/21/10 09:22 AM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: CampingPA Ranger]
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the numbers i got were right from dodges website. so not sure where that article got their numbers from.

Doesn't matter to me, i'd take the lower "assumed" towing numbers to not have to worry about the urea crap. all the extra towing isn't going to help you when ur sitting there stuck just idling or going 4mph with ur 16,000 pounds

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#2543 - 04/21/10 09:25 AM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: Crash]
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It gives you a 1000 mile warning, and I am sure all fuel stores will be carrying gallons of it...

If you cant get a jug of it and dump it in within a 1000 miles...

Then you deserve to be driving a dodge ! thumbs lmao

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#2544 - 04/21/10 09:34 AM Re: New GMC Duramax Diesels [Re: CampingPA Ranger]
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yeah but u know someone somewhere will not fill it up, just sayin

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